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Post by rbessey on Mar 11, 2005 16:49:46 GMT -5
I am thinking of getting a Detroit EZ locker and was wondering if i put this in, would it affect the 4 wheel drive system in anyway, would i be able to get better traction in 4 wheel drive then in 2 wheel drive with the locker? any help would be great.
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Post by iluvdrt on Mar 11, 2005 17:22:31 GMT -5
The differance with a locker is night and day for offroading. It is a very good investment for a weekend warrior, or full time rig.
It affects the 4wd by locking the two axleshafts together. This provides better traction.
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Post by 94cnytoy on Mar 11, 2005 17:56:54 GMT -5
HEY THERE SPARKLEBERRY!
do a little site search'n(scroll the main down to "lockers and gears")
everything you want to know is there.
yes, we'll gladly point you in the right direction but....
YOU are one of those....people...who haven't filled out a good profile of yer'self.
askin bout lockers is like askin if you need breast implants?
all depends on what your trying to achieve.
some people need them, some don't.
perform great for certain applications.
cumbersome for others.
daily driver or weekend warrior?
summer and winter?
snow and ice or just wet roads?
tire size? type of wheelin? gears?
I've got 33's and 4:10's
no lockers yet.
my truck is a DD to work/weekends
but I have to drive 100-200 for work sometimes.
I'm not lock'n till I have alternate trans.
I live in central new york.
sun,snow,ice,snow,black-ice,more snow and some dry asphalt.
It's my reality.
to answer your "intended"question.
MAYBE, you will get better traction. You've asked a trick question. open diff 4wd VS 2wd locked(rear?)
well, depends on the terrain(and everything else)
that is like comparing 2-rear wheels pushing(or pulling) versus one front and one rear wheel(pushing or pulling)
it all depend where the traction is.
if one front and one rear have "no" traction, you go nowhere at all!!!(open diff)
if the front(or rear)ONLY has traction, you move.(open diff)
if rear has one or both wheel traction(locked) you move.
if rear has no traction(rear locked)in 2wd, you don't move.
in 4wd you do might(if front has traction)
sorry, I just gave (3) 2-3yr and 2-new employees their reviews. I'm a little on edge. don't take it personally.
#nosmileys
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Post by Joe_Dirt on Mar 12, 2005 5:00:26 GMT -5
Here's my .02.... i have a detroit ez in the rear of my runner, and i love it..... i hardly notice it when im driving on the hiway and in parking lots, the only time i have really ever noticed it in a parking lot is when im coasting around a tight corner in first gear at like 10 mph, the tire scrubs a bit and you can feel the axles switching on you... i really wouldn't trade it for the world.... i can pretty much do everythign that i want to take my ifs up..... i drive 55 every day to/from work on a windy road and i feel no difference. if i had one complaint is that it doesnt chirp the tires enough on corners  also it makes alot of clicking noises and whatnot but its relaly nothing to get all worked up over.....  also, in the snow, it does fawkin AWESOME. same with spools,, dont let anyone tell you different unless they have them themselves! |
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Post by 94cnytoy on Mar 12, 2005 7:05:39 GMT -5
I rest my case.(someone from Oregon?)
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Post by rbessey on Mar 12, 2005 15:24:42 GMT -5
To answer 94 i drive my truck daily not very far usually, some days 2-4 miles others 30-60 miles but never more then 120-175 a week at the most. on the weekends i take it off road and i do a lot of hunting, trapping, that sort of thing, bear baits especially, i need my truck because i have to travel through mud, rivers, and through tuff shit to get to my baits, i live in maine and it is snow, mud, rain, right now a lot of snow and more then likely in a month or two a lot of mud ;D
i have got 31's getting 32 11.50 soon and stock gears, i want to know if the EZ locker will be a good investment for me off road, and won't affect the truck in any SERIOUS way when i have to drive it on road, if i had to estimate i would say in a months time my truck spends just as much time and miles off road as it does on road, (ball park figure) sometimes more, less.
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Post by rbessey on Mar 12, 2005 15:30:12 GMT -5
Also, i have never seen one of these lockers and does it replace the stock differential in the rear or where does it go, and does it replace anything, and does anything HAVE to be added along with it for any reason?
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Post by Sean on Mar 12, 2005 16:50:56 GMT -5
I reccomend clicking on the aussie locker link at the top of this page. Check out there install instructions for some general information.
Also i would go with the aussie over the EZ locker.
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Post by 94cnytoy on Mar 12, 2005 21:59:01 GMT -5
these "e-z" or aussie or whatever lockers, requires that your existing bearing and carrier and cross pins/shaft all be in good to excellent condition do to the added stresses put upon them.
there are only a few lockers for the toy's that include a new carrier housing like:detriots/arb's/limilted slips.
all the others reuse your existing carriers(what connects your ring gear to the bearings to the axle/differentials) not necc in that order.
just be prepared for a proper installation and correct what is required
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Post by rbessey on Mar 13, 2005 18:06:31 GMT -5
Does te locker have to go in the front or rear differential, or does it matter? how would it affect the truck it it was in the front/back?
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Post by Mike Kelly on Mar 14, 2005 8:44:58 GMT -5
Does te locker have to go in the front or rear differential, or does it matter? how would it affect the truck it it was in the front/back? Depends. The majority of folks put the locker in the rear. This will give you traction when you need it, regardless of if you are in 4wd or not. However, by putting it in the front, you can effectively turn it off by not having your rig in 4wd. The only problem with placing a locker up front is that when the locker is engaged, steering is a becomes difficult and is not recommended for street driving, especially in snow/ice. |
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Post by 36onatoy on Mar 16, 2005 9:55:15 GMT -5
well all i can say is that here in western PA we get snow and all kinds of good stuff i have a loacker in the rear and a 36inch tire and it's fine for a dd i drive it everyday to college, work, anywhere you just have to be careful sometimes, you'll be ok aslong as your not stupid
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Post by Sean on Mar 16, 2005 15:52:55 GMT -5
Since my E-locker motor crapped out on me I have been driving mine daily full locked. Living in Winnipeg, its snow and ice like crazy but i still like it better then no locker. I found myself getting stuck in the snow all the time in 2wd with the locker not engaged and the motor dead, having to get out and lock the hubs to put it in 4wheel just to get down some side street after a healthy snow fall.  Plus I can do a half dounut like nothing with the locker engaged making turning around on tight streets a breeze.  ;D |
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Post by Forgotten on May 12, 2005 17:27:22 GMT -5
would it be a lot harder to turn in 4wd with an aussie in the front?  |
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Post by 94cnytoy on May 13, 2005 4:57:27 GMT -5
Yes, substantially.
Most of the vehicle weight is in front and while on the gas, the locker will not disengage. Any turning of a vehicle normally requires the outer wheel to turn faster than the inner wheel. When both wheels turn at the same speed, turning just doesn't happen too easily. Slight turns are really no problem. Tight turns will get you. Some need to go as far as disengaging 4wd or unlocking a hub to make a corner. But ask anyone with lockers front and rear and they probably would not be willing to go without them....
It's a small price to pay for true 4wd.
Stew
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Post by BCoffrdIN on May 24, 2005 0:15:22 GMT -5
well if you have the money and not going to air in the truck for an air locker go with the detroit soft lock drives well on pavement it has a clutch in it, and in th bush it's great havin't been stuck yet with it in. The aussie and ez are lunch box locker not nockin them but they aren't as strong as the detroit. Detroit also makes a cheaper locker but as said above depends how much bling and what is the application. What ever you do don't weld it that shift fucks everything up and it for the poor man that will be alot poorer if he has to replace his whole rear end. Good luck
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Post by David1987 on May 24, 2005 7:37:23 GMT -5
obviously you must not know how to weld properly... mine has been welded for quite some time and have always welded previous trucks... lots of people weld the diffs.. if it is done CORRECTLY you will have no problems out of it... lots of people i ride with have high dollar trucks and welded diffs that have been welded correctly... in my mind weld is much stronger than detroit ez lockers.. i have seen people break detroit lockers on the trail many times..
now on the other hand if your truck sees more street time or if its your dd, then no i wouldnt weld it.. i would go with a locker that can be turned on and off.. but for a trail truck, i would go with weld all day long... cheaper and stronger...
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Post by 1980toymuddmonster on Jul 7, 2005 21:46:24 GMT -5
hello everyone im a noobie to web posting and 4x4ing well unless u count the countless cars iv tried to mudd in. ya im not that bright! any ways i have a 1980 toyota 4x4 that i just got it has 33x12.5 in tires on it so with all i have read the last few days iv decided to go with 4.88 gears my delma is wich locker to go with and weather or not to lock up the front im gonna lock the rear for sure. i want to beable to mudd for sure do amature rock crawling and of corse trail riding but i will need to use it to get to work ass well and i might decide to take it out of state from time to time wich means ill have to run on the freeway but i dont plan on doing that much>with all that in mind do A.lock up the front B.if i did, would the detriot true track be a good choice? with a DETRIOT softlocker in the rear or is the other better opions that maby i havent considerd ? i just got my truck two days ago so im a reall noob thanx for tyhe help |
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Post by fourwd1 on Jul 13, 2005 7:10:29 GMT -5
Holy run-on sentence . How about trying capitals and punctuation noob  |
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Post by Forgotten on Jul 13, 2005 13:06:18 GMT -5
I dont have to deal with snow and ice on the streets more than maybe once or twice a year, would a locker in the front make steering really really hard in the grass and mud??
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