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Post by ak94pickup on Apr 10, 2007 15:09:54 GMT -5
some body.. plz give me some advice.. i got a 94 pickup and its got a 3 inch body lift right now.. i want to put a lift on it.. i dont want to do the ifs cause i know in the long run i will be mad at myself.. for even wastin the time and money to do it.. i want to put a solid axle under my truck.. i have been lookin at the all-pro offroad solid axle swap... and its got everything.. but then iwas lookin at the extreme flex which i can get in 7 inches and not 6.. the extreme flex lift.. is required to run the ifs steerin box. so i figures i could just buy the extreme lift.. and then jsut add a few other things like brake rotors and wheel spacers... is this a good idea?  the solid axle swap is $1900 for everything plus shippin TO ALASKA... but the extreme lift (designed for 79-85 stock solid axle) is $1700 bucks.. Is it even possibly to use that lift on the newer toyota pickups? oh and i have fabrication skills as well.. i have lifted a t-100 , a 99 tacoma, and a f-150 for a few buddies.. and they where all suspension.. |
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Post by 94cnytoy on Apr 10, 2007 16:15:09 GMT -5
"oh and i have fabrication skills as well.. i have lifted a t-100 , a 99 tacoma, and a f-150 for a few buddies.. and they where all suspension.."
There is a difference between mechanical abilities and fabrication skills.
When you did the lifts in the other trucks did you fabricate the suspension system yourself or install the "pre-fabricated" kits?
If you have the ability to make your own systems and parts, the "extreme" lift major compenents could be made to work, but you'd be better off with the proper kit pieces for an actual SAS, which is truly what you need.
The "extreme" kit you mention is for a vehicle already set up with leaf-spring suspension and won't have compenents or instructions on how to convert your vehicle over (removing the IFS system).
PS: Don't worry about the 1'' difference (6'' vs 7'')
You already have a 3'' BL and the flex can easily be adjusted in the spring packs.
Of all the kits and lifts available, the springs are the most crucial thing to flex, ride and handling. Ie: a successfull lift
Stew
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Post by fourwd1 on Apr 10, 2007 20:07:55 GMT -5
... i got a 94 pickup... i want to put a lift on it ... i want to put a solid axle under my truck... ... i have been lookin at the all-pro offroad solid axle swap... and its got everything.. but then iwas lookin at the extreme flex ... the solid axle swap is $1900 ... but the extreme lift (designed for 79-85 stock solid axle) is $1700 bucks.. Is it even possibly to use that lift on the newer toyota pickups? ... Read what you wrote. The 2 kits are for 2 different applications. One is a solid axle swap kit and the other is a lift for a solid axle truck. The swap kit is more $ because it has things you need for a SWAP. The other kit is less because it's for a truck that already has a solid axle. Could you buy the lift kit and add what's needed to make it a swap kit, yes. But the cost will be more than the price of the swap kit. Forget the 1" diff, means nothing. |
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Post by ak90toy on Apr 11, 2007 0:25:33 GMT -5
yea christ man use your brain. all pro for sure like i already have.
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Post by 94cnytoy on Apr 11, 2007 17:22:58 GMT -5
Echo?  Stew |
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Post by Sean on Apr 15, 2007 0:04:40 GMT -5
The swap kit with the 4" lift springs will net you about 6" of lift. 5" springs about 7". The extreme lift and swap kit are virtually identical except for a few parts required for the swap. Check out Marlins kits as well.
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Post by slade on Apr 22, 2007 9:10:57 GMT -5
If you had "Fabrication skills", I dont think you would be considering droping $1,900 in a SAS/lift kit. A person with "fabrication skills" can make or peice together the proper pieces to do a SAS.
To me, it sounds like you need to stay with the SAS kit that is made for your truck. I doubt your ready to try to make the Extreme kit work.
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Post by rockcrawlintoy on Apr 22, 2007 19:52:07 GMT -5
dude an sas kit is more complete and easier to do then piecing parts together. its proven to work and u arent gettin junk yard parts. if i would have been able to i would have bought a kit. but since i didn't use a toyota axle and the only kit was over 2600 dollars when i did my sas i really didnt have a choice. u can get marlin kits for just over a grand.
DRew
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Post by slade on Apr 26, 2007 21:26:19 GMT -5
dude an sas kit is more complete and easier to do then piecing parts together. its proven to work and u arent gettin junk yard parts. if i would have been able to i would have bought a kit. but since i didn't use a toyota axle and the only kit was over 2600 dollars when i did my sas i really didnt have a choice. u can get marlin kits for just over a grand. DRew Explain how it is "more complete and "easier to do" than building/ peicing the parts you need togather. If you know what you are doing, you dont have to worrie about the design being proven when you fabricate it yourself. You dont have to use junkyard parts to do a SAS, but if you know what you are looking for there is nothing wrong with using junkyard parts. The prices of a SAS kit seem like a waste of money to me. |
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Post by Shibby24 on Apr 30, 2007 4:04:47 GMT -5
A sas kit has(or should have) everything you need to complete the sas(other than the axle and IFS box, and even those can be bought but at a Price from some vendors). That can be helpfull in you don't have to run all over town from junk yard to junk yard, part store to parts store trying to find the right parts, its all there... shipped to you doorstep... saves a lot of time and hassle. Also you don't have to spend time fabing up the parts you need. And not everyone can work on their truck with all their free time, families, etc to worry about. BUT if you can build your own and have the time go right ahead, I myself wouldn't want to build my own, I am a FAB noob!
Back to what the thread is about, buy what is meant for the job... will make your life easier. All those extra parts needed will add up quick.
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Post by speedy on May 1, 2007 5:18:03 GMT -5
The front axle alone isn't going to be free. It isn't included in the SAS price and depending on whether you go junkyard or parts store, that will be a big difference. Spend the $$ on lockers and a lift for your ride, IFS trucks can do quite a bit before they get left behind by the likes of me, LOL!!! Even a SAS'd rig like yours isn't going to be a great rock crawler until you lock it. Although I must admit there is a certain satisfaction when your front wheel droops below the bottom of your back wheel.
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the solid axle swap is $1900 for everything plus shippin TO ALASKA... but the extreme lift (designed for 79-85 stock solid axle) is $1700 bucks.. Is it even possibly to use that lift on the newer toyota pickups? oh and i have fabrication skills as well.. i have lifted a t-100 , a 99 tacoma, and a f-150 for a few buddies.. and they where all suspension..
