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Post by yotaman94 on Dec 15, 2003 20:27:47 GMT -5
i have a 94 4x4 with the V6, its on 33's now but will probally go bigger i was wondering if 4.88's would be the best gears for it. I will eventually go to 38's when my 33's wear out. and also what is the best locker for the money. I dont want to spend crazy money but i drive it on the road a lot. Also should i get a locker for the front or rear. Thanks
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Post by 86taco on Dec 15, 2003 20:44:50 GMT -5
There are a few Quirks with a automatic locker. Like it will bang and pop everyonce and a while, click when you coast around corners, buck. But its not that bad . you get used to it . its well worth the quirks.. Lockrite is one of a few brands. They run about $300. I have an Aussie Locker but they have not came out with one for the v6 yet. THey say a locker in the front is the best choice. I think one in each is the best!!!!!!! I put mine in the rear until I can get one for the front. 4.88 would be enugh to turn 38's but I would go with 5.29 gears. for the best power.
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Post by Sean on Dec 16, 2003 3:20:25 GMT -5
Go with the 5.29's and put the locker in the back. If you can afford it get a selectable like an ARB or factor e-locker, otherwise I would stick to the much cheaper lockrite.
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Post by DesertRat on Dec 16, 2003 12:24:20 GMT -5
I have almost the same situation and I need someone to shelp me out here. ok, 91, v6, manual, 4inch suspension lift, 3inch body lift. I'm going to 35's. I was getting 5.29 gears, unless someone here says no. I want a locker!!! I've never had one.  I want a selectable locker front and rear, but can't afford it. I have decided to get a fulltime locker, detroit, for the rear. Is this ok, or should I really get a lockrite? THe reall question for me is what to get for the front?  I have manual hubs, so I was told I could get anything. Should I just go for another detroit? I can't wait to get them and go have some fun testing them out. Plus, a buddy of mine got a locker for his chevy, and I need to show him he made a mystake by going chevy. |
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Post by Sean on Dec 16, 2003 14:27:46 GMT -5
No doubt a detroit is a great locker, the best full time locker available. the thing for me is the price vs the strength. The lockrite fits inside your stock carrier, which is why it is so modestly priced. The Detroit on the other hand replaces your stock carrier, with a stronger new unit. The thing for me is the factory carrier is plenty strong and you are likely to break a ring gear or an axle before ever having a problem with the carrier. If you do break an axle the recoil will usually toast any auto locker, be it a detroit or whatever. So to me it's hard to justify the near 500 dollar price tag on the detroit, for use in a toyota.
If you can afford a detroit, save a little more and get an ARB or a factory e-locker if you are up to the mods required for the install. Otherwise like I said before, you might as well stick with the cheaper ones, they work the same and are plenty strong for Toyota's.
As long as you are running IFS I say forget the front locker.
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5.29's will be your best bet.
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Post by yotaman94 on Dec 16, 2003 21:59:25 GMT -5
i drive a lot on the road thats why i was wondering for mileage reasons if the 4.88's would be a better choice for me. I know ill have more power with the 5.29's but i thought for as much as i drive the 4.88's would be the way to go. Also what tire in your opinion wears the best and has good tread life, in a 38 inch size. thanks
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Post by fourwd1 on Dec 17, 2003 22:36:44 GMT -5
i drive a lot on the road thats why i was wondering for mileage reasons if the 4.88's would be a better choice for me. I know ill have more power with the 5.29's but i thought for as much as i drive the 4.88's would be the way to go. Also what tire in your opinion wears the best and has good tread life, in a 38 inch size. thanks If you drive as much on the road and are as concerned as you say, you'd be much better off a 35" tire maximum. A 38" tire is just not a realistic tire for a daily driver on a Toyota, even though a bunch of people will chime in and say they do it and it's great. A typical 38" tire is built for one primary purpose, offroad traction (be it mud or rocks) and streetability and wear are at the bottom of the list of design characteristics. You didn't say what you were planning to do in order to fit a 38" tire under your truck. That too will have a large effect on your trucks handling, etc as a daily driver. If you feel you must go w/38's, you definitly want 5.29's, otherwisee 4.88's will be fine. |
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Post by mongo338 on Dec 17, 2003 22:47:22 GMT -5
what axles are you running ive found on my yota anything over 35s and i seem to tear more stuff up so i went to a dana 60 up front and dana 70 in the rear but thats a whole diffrent mod how much wear and tear do you think your axles will hold up to sorry i thought your yota was an 84 not 94 so unless you did a solid front axl conversion my two cents was worthless
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Post by DesertRat on Dec 17, 2003 23:15:32 GMT -5
Wow, thats a new one on me. Why? I thought that the IFS flexes less, therefore one tire is off the ground more often. Wouldn't that mean a locker is needed more. Somebody set me straight please. I've never heard much about the toyota factory e-locker. How is is?
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Post by DeadlyPeace on Dec 18, 2003 2:16:20 GMT -5
If you drive as much on the road and are as concerned as you say, you'd be much better off a 35" tire maximum. A 38" tire is just not a realistic tire for a daily driver on a Toyota, even though a bunch of people will chime in and say they do it and it's great. A typical 38" tire is built for one primary purpose, offroad traction (be it mud or rocks) and streetability and wear are at the bottom of the list of design characteristics. 
I sometimes use 38's when I wheel my rig, but they aren't aways all that great for the road. Plus some of the larger tires (36's and up) don't last as long on the road, unless you get all terrain type tire. Even then some of those don't last as long. I run 35" AT's on the roads for this reason and for the fact that 38's just hog up too much power out of my little 4banger.
My 35's last me about 2 - 2 1/2 years and my 38's last about 4 - 6 years depending on how much wheeling I do on each set. |
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Post by snorkleman on Dec 18, 2003 8:54:00 GMT -5
Yeah I can agree with the bigger tires on road. I run 36's for a daily driver but don't expect to get a whole lot of mileage out fo them. Of course then there is the issue of balancing something that large. A lot of shops won't balance something that large due to their machines not being big enough. I had to go to a commercial tire shop to have them balanced. The guys balances them while they are on the truck. It's a trip to see it done that way. But it balances better than a machine.
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Post by Sean on Dec 18, 2003 10:55:46 GMT -5
Wow, thats a new one on me. Why? I thought that the IFS flexes less, therefore one tire is off the ground more often. Wouldn't that mean a locker is needed more. Somebody set me straight please. I've never heard much about the toyota factory e-locker. How is is? It's not that a locker won't improve the off road performance of an IFS suspension, it's just I feel the IFS is too weak to handle a locker and not worth the breakage. I love my e-locker. |
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Post by DesertRat on Dec 18, 2003 16:11:47 GMT -5
Should I leave the IFS open then? Or would you suggest a limited slip?
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Post by Sean on Dec 19, 2003 13:16:57 GMT -5
Really depends on your future upgrade plans and how hard you wheel. If you plan to stick with the IFS for a long time then it might be worth throwing a LSD or a cheap locker in the front and deal with things as they do or do not break. If you wheel hard though, things are going to break. For me the frustration of replacing stock broken parts with equally weak new stock parts was too much, so I saved towards the axle swap instead of investing in upgrading the IFS.
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Post by 4xfred on Dec 19, 2003 20:58:57 GMT -5
;D I'm on board w/Sean. Again!? Later...
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Post by Diggertoy on Jan 1, 2004 8:47:20 GMT -5
I have 5:29's with a quicklocks, 35's, and sure it pops around corners, and gets crappy gas mileage, but it wheels great on " Little Sluice " etc...
If your going to get 38's, get the lowest gear possible at the bare minimum 5:29's if not 5:71's
and get quicklocks, their cheap and they work !!!
My 2 Cents
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I want a selectable locker front and rear, but can't afford it. I have decided to get a fulltime locker, detroit, for the rear. Is this ok, or should I really get a lockrite? THe reall question for me is what to get for the front?
I have manual hubs, so I was told I could get anything. Should I just go for another detroit? I can't wait to get them and go have some fun testing them out. Plus, a buddy of mine got a locker for his chevy, and I need to show him he made a mystake by going chevy.
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