cmc86
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Post by cmc86 on Jul 15, 2003 18:53:59 GMT -5
I am sure that this question has been asked a few times but after reading through all the post my question is not completely answered. I am planning on getting a lunch box style locker (powertrax, lock rite), although I am not sure of what kind yet, due to the price and the fact that I can install it myself. Should it get in the front or back? I have heard both. Which will I benefit from the most? I like to do trailing mainly (wash outs, mild rock, loose gravel climbs, mud) no big rocks - yet. I live in Texas so snow and ice are not a big problem as we see them about a week out of a year. I am leaning toward the front because of the fact that I can unlock my hubs and the locker is gone. My only concern is my ability to steer when in 4wd. Any input would be helpful. Thanks.
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Post by 4xfred on Jul 15, 2003 20:58:02 GMT -5
;D In the rear. I can't believe anybody would tell you to put a single locker in front. Nothing but probs. I put a Lockrite in the rear &, so far, it's been good. Noisy. You know it's there but you know it's working. Later...
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cmc86
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Post by cmc86 on Jul 15, 2003 22:02:57 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. For future reference, where should this post have gone? I thought that this would be a general question because it is not really specific to the truck. Is there a locker you would recommend and how as your wear on your tires been since you have installed the locker.
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Post by Sean on Jul 15, 2003 22:28:50 GMT -5
I would have to concur that it's best suited to go in the rear. I have met people that ran them in the front only without troubles. They did'nt wheel in rocks though and I found it kind of odd but to each there own.
Check on e-bay before you buy new, you may find a deal on a good use one.
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Post by muddiver on Jul 16, 2003 22:07:07 GMT -5
I recently had both diffs. out for a gear swap and I had the shop install a lockright in the rear. I stayed away from the idea of installing an automatic locker up front because I thought it might be a little to much stress on the weak ifs front axleshafts. I asked around about the powertrax no-slip diff and the response I got was that it was a bit more complex to install than the lockright, but not much different, other than being somewhat quieter in operation. If you really want a locked front, an on demand locker such as an ARB is probley the best way to go. Just my opinion though, it's your rig.
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Post by supercrawler on Jul 17, 2003 21:33:48 GMT -5
When my 86(b-4 SAS) was ifs first i installed lock-lite in rear.
It was great been in JV,Rubicon.with some troble.
And i add lock-lite in front what a diffrent it makes.
It's very simple to install not like detroit you don;t have to remove r/p gear.
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racer85304
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Post by racer85304 on Sept 13, 2003 16:27:07 GMT -5
this is what i read on the offroadlockers.com site. i dont know why it is so bad to put it in the front. is steering really that bad in the front while 4wheelin.
Q6. If only installing one locker should I install in the front or rear?
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This is dependent on your personal preference, the type of vehicle, existing diff types, and how you intend to use the vehicle.
a. If a vehicle has an IFS (Independent Front Suspension) system then the front installation will result in a dramatic increase in 4WD capability. This is because all IFS vehicles have very limited suspension movement (wheel travel and articulation) resulting in easily lifted wheels and a loss of front traction. Installing a front locker will solve the deficiency.
c. If a vehicle has constant 4WD then only a rear installation should be considered.
d. A front installation will usually yield the greatest improvement in off-road capability. This is due to the general requirement of increased in traction under hill climbing or rock crawling. Under full climbing conditions, due to the angle of the vehicle, the rear wheels carry a much greater weight (weight transfer) and therefore, the front carries less weight and tends to break traction very easily. Once one front wheel starts to spin the other wheel stops turning and the whole front diff ceases to provide traction. At this point the load is transferred to the rear diff as if the vehicle was a 2WD and due to the increased load the rear wheels tend to spin and the vehicle stops. If you can stop the front wheel from spinning you have solved the traction problem. In addition to the traction performance a front installation does not introduce any changes in handling characteristics.
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Post by wombat on Sept 13, 2003 18:07:45 GMT -5
What are the pros and cons of ARB and lock light.. and any other company that makes lockers..I know some are electric, some are air, and some are mechanical, but what the pros and cons for each different version. What is considered the best locker on a tight budget?
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Post by racer85304 on Sept 13, 2003 18:53:01 GMT -5
what diff is going to be installed. if it is a v6 rear diff then u can get a lockright for about 210 is the cheapest i have seen. if it is the 4cly www.offroadlockers.com has all of there lockers for 199. the pros and cons i dont know about because i have never ran one before. i am going to order the aussie locker from www.offroadlockers.com tonight. |
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Post by 4xfred on Sept 16, 2003 21:34:44 GMT -5
;D As stated, I have a Lockright in the rear. No major complaints. If I was to do it over today, I'd check out the "Aussie locker" 1st. Go here www.pirate4x4.com/welcome1.html & do a search for "aussie locker". There's plenty of info. I'm really thinking about one for the front. Later... |
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Post by racer85304 on Sept 16, 2003 21:46:20 GMT -5
price good intil oct 1st.
cant wait for mine.
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Post by Tommy on Sept 18, 2003 11:34:34 GMT -5
Just my couple of pennies here, but I would put a lockright in the back, and ARB up front. On my burban I have a locker in the back, and a limited slip up front, don't have any complaints about it, I like the mud, and live down a washboard gravel road. Next step is ARB up front.
I will be getting a Locker for the back of my Yota, and nothing up front.... but that cause it's a 2WD, that will be for trail and some mud.
Enjoy your toy
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Post by 86taco on Oct 14, 2003 19:17:05 GMT -5
still waiting on my aussie locker. the air shipper lost a couple boxes of the toy 8" lockers. it sucks I ordered it oct 4th.
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Post by flyinhighyota on Oct 14, 2003 21:30:33 GMT -5
I use to have a 91 explorer with a 6' superlift and 33 x 12.5's. I had a lockright in the front and auburn limited slip in the rear with 4.56 gears. The rig was damn near unstoppable with the exception of getting stuck in the mud so bad I couldn't open any doors. Anyway, I loved that setup and it never gave me any problems turning off road even in very tight situations as long as your not bombing down the trail turning was not a problem. To each thier own but I plan to go this route with my yota. After the sas. ;D
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Post by MXjunk127 on Oct 14, 2003 22:04:20 GMT -5
Where in Texas? maby we can wheel... I was running detroit front and rear, NICE! My new rig will have lockrite in rear and arb in front too, best combo in my experiance. what tires, lift are you running?
later
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Post by toy94x4 on Oct 16, 2003 2:07:51 GMT -5
I am going to be getting the "Ausssie Locker" for the rear when I get back from this deployment I'm on, so I asked how long the iintroductory $199 rather than the reg. $260. They emailed me back and said it is good until 31 December for everyone. . A savings of over 23%... not bad, plus now I have time to save up. That'll cover most of the body lift too.
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