What do you guys think??

[carlos4x4sand]

I recentally came across a nice 4Runner on the net. ( www.cardomain.com/memberpage/460769 ) its got a 383 Stroker, running on 40"boggers on toy axles. Im thinking about goin the in the same direction. well except the stroker. You guys think the toy axles will hold up. i mean they should im running only a 3VZE. I know i should go with a Dana, but if this guys axles are holding up then i think ill just go with toy axles.

[Nick]

Well to be honest i think that truck/owner need to learn some pysichs(sp).

You see with a truck THAT tall, when ur on a trail, and u start getting on a good camber, guess what, all your money, just flipped over into a pile of junk.

Just my 2 cents.......

[carlos4x4sand]

True, but it also depends on what kind of 4x4ering you do. Like in this case it looks like a mud bogger.

[Nick]

Ya i can see if ALL you do is play in mud that would be fine, but i cannot see that thing going on an actual trail.

I dont think you will have a problem with the axles and stuff, but let me ask you a question, do you know exactly what your getting into with trying to fit that engine in ur rig?

[carlos4x4sand]

You mean the heavy weight and being able to tip over easier. But no i dont want a V8(anymore) im planing on turboing my 3VZE

[Nick]

No i meant a v8 would be a tight squeeze in that 4runner.

[snorkleman]

Carlos set aside the engine, ride height, and all that jazz my opinion is the axles are not strong enough to handle 40" tires. I have friends running toyota front axles with 37's and they break birfields and are switching to birfield eliminator kits (thats just 37's).

Here are some things to think about. 40" tires are huge and you will definately need at least 5.29 gears. Higher gear ratios are subject to break depending on use. Now throw in a locker and you have doubled your chances of breaking those small axles. Seems like a big headache to me or just a trailer queen.

But it really is up to what you want to do with it. I'm just telling ya from a offroad perspective this rig would not be a good thing to have until some more mod's were done to reinforce the need for tires that large. If you want to go really big and still be capable offroad, you can't skimp on the important stuff or the savings will come back to bite you in offroad repair costs. Just my $.02

[carlos4x4sand]

I understand what ur saying. I guess im just tryin to go a cheap way to lift my Runner. But then again the cheapest isnt the best.

[4xfred]

;D Carlos, you're Runner seems similar to mine. I have hopes, dreams & DOH! got smacked in the face realities. Serious ?, what do you want to do w/the Runner? I just can't see anything more than 37"s on a driven rig. Later...

[L8sho2003]

I understand that trucks like that are the trend in your area. I have considered a little "expedition" down that way myself. I would recommend a more compromising, or "well rounded" setup. You kinda lose the whole thing that makes Toys the #$% when you go that direction (weight). Everyone builds that way here in MS, and I can hit more trails than they can day to day because it is practical. The guy with the truck you describe is the guy that is always riding with someone else unless it's to the mudhole. I still have the first "big truck" I ever built, a '76 k-5 currently with 40's on a dana 60 and a 14 bolt, and it sits in my parents barn. It is only practical to drive in the places it is capable of going if I trailer it back and forth. I should sell it. I could afford a brand new whatever the #%$ for the money it takes to keep it on the road day to day which is why it sits in a barn . Best of luck whichever path you chose.

[red85runner]

well i know 40's is definitely too much, but i was planning on 5" suspension 3" body with 38" SX's... most of it will be mudding, and i would go with 36" but it gets pretty deep in memphis sometimes and the rigs with 38"s do great... but if i go trail wheeling i dont want to be too tippy... im goin with All pro springs in front and Chevys in the back so i should articulate pretty good... any thoughts?

[carlos4x4sand]

I know what u guys are talking about, but see its all flat here, no rock trails, nothin, lots of mud, and sand so that what im used to and know how to navigate. I had thought about gettn a heavier truck like a 78-79 bronco, but i couldnt cause i would rather have/see my runner fixed up. And when i saw Greg Domenicks runner( www.geocities.com/four_the_hard_way/ ) a couple of years ago i knew i had to get my runner like that, i just loved the way it looked.