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Post by dybgpn on Jan 14, 2008 22:19:54 GMT -5
I'm looking to lift my 87 X-tra cab, it has the 22RE with the Auto tranny. I can only afford to lift it with 1.5" Ball joint spacers and shackles and run 33x10.50s on stock wheels because I must also regear to at least 5.29s if I expect the truck to go anywhere.
My question is that I eventually plan on adding a 4" suspension lift also and running 33x14.50s in the future. When I regear when I lift it initiallywith the 1.5" Ball joint spacers and shackles should I go with 5.71 ring and pinion or go with the 5.29s? (Keeping in mind my desire to run 33x14.50s in the future)
I use the truck as my daily driver, and it does see about 45-50%freeway driving. Currently it has the stock 225/75/15 tires with stock 4.30 gear and I would increase power ever so slightly over its stock performance when I regear. About as aggressive as I get offroad are existing dirt roads or trails rated from 1-3 possibly a 4 on a 10 point scale.
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Post by fourwd1 on Jan 14, 2008 22:33:46 GMT -5
Slow down.
For a 4 cyl/auto/31" tires, 4.88 is the proper ratio.
If you go to 33's 5.29 is good.
Even then, to go from stock to 31's the stock ratio may work for a while. Try it before you re-gear.
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Post by jamride on Jan 15, 2008 8:05:59 GMT -5
Quick questioon guys while we're on this subject...Can I run 33x12.50's on my stock 94??
Oh yea..12 inch rims too...Im in doubt..I'd hate to go with a body, but may have to till i get all the hardware together on my 4" procomp stage II
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Post by fourwd1 on Jan 15, 2008 12:19:18 GMT -5
12" wide rims ? with 12.50's you want 10" or less. I don't think you can run 33-12.50's on a stock truck w/o major rubbing.
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Post by DeadlyPeace on Jan 15, 2008 13:25:49 GMT -5
Quick questioon guys while we're on this subject...Can I run 33x12.50's on my stock 94?? Oh yea..12 inch rims too...Im in doubt..I'd hate to go with a body, but may have to till i get all the hardware together on my 4" procomp stage II It's best to keep your rim at least 2" less in width then your tire. Some people have even done an 8" rim with 12.5 tires for a better bead hold when aired down.My question is that I eventually plan on adding a 4" suspension lift also and running 33x14.50s in the future. should I go with 5.71 ring and pinion or go with the 5.29s? (Keeping in mind my desire to run 33x14.50s in the future) 5.29 gears are good up to 35"-36" tires
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Post by fourwd1 on Jan 15, 2008 20:41:08 GMT -5
Quick questioon guys while we're on this subject...Can I run 33x12.50's on my stock 94?? Oh yea..12 inch rims too...Im in doubt..I'd hate to go with a body, but may have to till i get all the hardware together on my 4" procomp stage II It's best to keep your rim at least 2" less in width then your tire. Some people have even done an 8" rim with 12.5 tires for a better bead hold when aired down.Yeah, that's what I run on my 36-12.50's My question is that I eventually plan on adding a 4" suspension lift also and running 33x14.50s in the future. should I go with 5.71 ring and pinion or go with the 5.29s? (Keeping in mind my desire to run 33x14.50s in the future) 5.29 gears are good up to 35"-36" tiresWith a manual trans, but if you have an auto you need to go lower (5.71's).
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Post by colosusabbott on Jan 18, 2008 13:53:30 GMT -5
the width of the tire and or wheel doesnt affect the gearing, only the diameter of the tire. a 12 inch wheel on a 12.50 tire is not uncommon. my 03 tacoma has 33x12.50s on 15x12 MT classic 2s. my k5 has 44x19.50x16 on 16x18 aluminum wheels. the most common tire and wheel combo you will ever see is a 31x10.50 on a 15x10
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Post by Sean on Jan 18, 2008 15:55:04 GMT -5
the most common tire and wheel combo you will ever see is a 31x10.50 on a 15x10 Most common where? Most people i see with 31s(no arguement they are likely the most common tire size) are running stock 7" rims or aftermarket 15x8s. Even on chevys that is the most common size, 15x8.
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Post by dybgpn on Jan 19, 2008 15:24:24 GMT -5
It seems this thread has been pulled off course from the original question. This thread should only be dealing with 33x1050s and 33x1450s tires NO OTHERs, don't reply as to rim width either.
MY QUESTION IS ONLY FOR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS!! What gear is best for 33x1450s: 5.29s? OR 5.71s?
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Post by bowshtr on Jan 19, 2008 17:34:29 GMT -5
Generally the automatics require a little more gear then a manual. I ran 33's and a 5 spd on stock gears for 2.5 years with never one problem, mud, sand, snow, it didnt matter with the 4banger.
If you plan on doing anything over a 35 i would say yea go with 5.29 or 5.71's, but if you stay below a 35 i would say 4.88's would be sufficient.
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Post by jamride on Jan 19, 2008 22:06:44 GMT -5
I know what colosus means..A LOT of ppl round here run 31x10.50's on 10 inch rims..As a matter of fact i dont know anyone with anything less than that rims width...But most are running larger tires too though..Such as 32x11.50's and 33x12.50's on 10 inch rims..I've decided to go with the 33x12.50's on 12 inch M/T's Ill try 4" suspension to start with..If I must, Ill go with the body as well. But really dont want to. Gotta keep in mind this is a daily driver, not a wheeler, so Im more about the looks rite now than rockin the trails.
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Post by bowshtr on Jan 20, 2008 17:49:00 GMT -5
Dont hit any curbs or loose any air pressure!!! 12.50 width tire on a 12 inch rim.....lol good luck
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Post by jamride on Jan 20, 2008 18:07:46 GMT -5
I dont think Ill have a problem..Im buyin the set from my buddy, which has been rollin them for a year with no problems.
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Post by kysavage on Jan 21, 2008 9:49:17 GMT -5
Why do you have to have a rim that wide? The only reason I would even consider that size would be if I was having them given to me. Especially running only a 33" tire.
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Post by colosusabbott on Jan 22, 2008 8:12:28 GMT -5
because it looks good
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Post by jamride on Jan 22, 2008 15:06:54 GMT -5
YEP, cause it looks good...Imma have this truck lookin good in the future..We do lifts for the looks..I've broken enough stuff in my early 20's..Time to cruze and hunt thats bout it..I can buy old yotas all day with 3" lift to tare up in the woods, but not the ones that have a fortune in them....lol
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Post by cr884runner on Jan 22, 2008 19:40:04 GMT -5
No offense jamride as I truly like what you are doing, but if you are doing lifts for looks then throw a front axle under it and powdercoat it. Itll look a lot cleaner because youll have a lot less parts plus it wont look like a mess is going on with ifs. Plus those 3 incher body lifts dont help for looks. Not trying to put anyone down or anything as I dont have anything to show for it, but rather than spending money on ifs throw it in a front axle.
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Post by jamride on Jan 22, 2008 23:31:55 GMT -5
Well, one day I hope to gain the experince and confidence in my abilities to tackles it..Gotta remember that we do this with basic tools and equipment..Maybe in the future..I wanna do it but Imma do it myself when I get up the nerve..=O)
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Post by cr884runner on Jan 22, 2008 23:55:53 GMT -5
Ya thats understandable as I am lucky having a friend that has a shop with a lift that can pick up diesels off their frames... seeing all the trucks you got, attempt it on a truck that you are building up... if you dont believe your welding skills are in order you can either practice them or have a friend do it or have a shop do it...
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