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Post by Forgotten on May 10, 2005 14:58:56 GMT -5
hey what would be a better tire for my 86 4runner it is my daily driver that sees lots of mud and no rocks
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Post by tf on May 10, 2005 20:05:23 GMT -5
I have 30x10.5x15 TSL radials on my 81 toy, I bought them used, they had 10,000 miles on em when I put them on the toy. They now have 44,000 on them, but they are getting worn down pretty good, I do a lot of driving for work... 150 miles a day. I would say thats not to bad for tsl's. I rotate them every 3,000 miles when changing oil. I can't decide either on tsl or ltb's, but the tsl's treated me really good, but i love the aggressiveness of the ltb's. It's a coin toss for me!! ;D
Trav
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Post by Forgotten on May 10, 2005 20:49:59 GMT -5
how are those tsl radials in the mud?
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Post by tf on May 10, 2005 22:47:20 GMT -5
The tsl's are great in the mud, best mud tire i have ever owned. Horrible on hard pack snow, but dig through the deep snow. They howl on the highway but thats part of the reason why i love em  trav |
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Post by ToyotaMike on May 12, 2005 16:25:17 GMT -5
I was thinking ltb myself cause of the huge price diff. and the fact you can get 34X10.50X15 in the ltb
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Post by Forgotten on May 12, 2005 17:10:53 GMT -5
how much longer would the tsl radials last vs. the ltbs and i also like that the ltbs are 2 inches wider  |
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Post by ToyotaMike on May 12, 2005 18:28:40 GMT -5
I was going for the tall and skinnier myself as I don't want to regear quite yet. I figure the 2" skinnier would help with the weight issue.
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Post by tf on May 12, 2005 20:13:49 GMT -5
I think if you rotated them every 3 to 5xxx they would last just as long as a radial, are bias ply tires usually softer compound than radials? I dont know why the radials are 31x9.5 instead of 31x10.5.. If you rotate and watch tire pressure, both tires should last for 30 to 40,xxx miles. I would love to put 31x11.5 ltb's on my 4runner, when fixed, to use as my daily driver, i work in a gravel pit and have plenty of hills to climb. Let me know what you finally decide on. Trav |
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Post by David1987 on May 13, 2005 7:37:02 GMT -5
30-40k miles on bias tires?? i am not saying you are wrong due to i have NEVER had bias ply tires.. my buddy just bought 38" tsl swampers (bias ply) and the shop he bought them from said he would do good to get 10k miles out of them b/c he drives 80 miles round trip when going riding?? also they are horrible going down the interstate... truck shakes and its quite scary... he had an alignment done and tires rechecked for proper balancing...
if mine was trailered to the trails, i would have a set on my truck b/c they are the best trail tire in my opinion... so i would like to know what others think about that kind of mileage from a bias ply tire...
again i am not saying you are wrong... this is the only guy i know with bias ply tires who actually drives his truck to the trails... everyone else trailers them...
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Post by 94cnytoy on May 13, 2005 9:31:03 GMT -5
Reguardless of milage,
Bias can be balanced and wear decently.
Bead-lock rims are a sure bet to keep them from rotating, but the are illegal in same states....
Keep in mind, taller tires, heavier tire wheel combo's will amplify any loose or worn parts in the steering and suspension system.
Cold tire "hop" will be had with bias and radial tires.
Proper air pressure will help the hop and the wear.
Check in your area to see if any truck shops can do tire balancing with inner tire balancing pads.
If the wheel itself is balanced first, then the tire marked and balanced with the pads(glued to tire inner faces) the tire/wheel rotation will not effect balance(unless you loose large lugs chunks)
Stew
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Post by David1987 on May 13, 2005 10:06:27 GMT -5
he has beadlocks and the tire pressure is always accurate... i wasnt really asking any questions...
i just keep hearing people talk about running bias ply tires on daily drivers and i cant understand why they do this or how they can live with the vibrations, noise, rough riding, etc. these are great trail tires but i cant imagine having them on a dd or a truck that spends as much time on the road as it does off the road...
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Post by DrumBum on May 13, 2005 18:06:55 GMT -5
it could have to do with the size of the bias ply tire too... i've got 31" bias ply swampers on my dd, and it's more than liveable. they're a little bumpy and noisy, but they don't shake the truck on the freeway, and it's not by any means scary.... but i'm sure a 38" tire would act different than a 31"...
also, like 94cnytoy said, taller tires amplify the effects of worn parts. could be just the truck, not the tires that make it ride like it does.
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Post by tf on May 13, 2005 23:12:11 GMT -5
Ok, 40,000 might be a little much for a bias ply tire, but 30,000 should be reachable if it is your DD. The radials have 44,000 on them with a little less than 1/4 tread left, but they are only 30x10.5, so i'm sure the tire size makes a big difference as well as the weight of the vehicle they are on. Sorry didn't mean to ruffle anybodies feathers ;D. Not to many rocky trails in MN, just plenty of mud.
Trav
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