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Post by fragileversion on Jun 14, 2004 13:03:40 GMT -5
ok, i have an 87 toyota pick-up reg cab reg bed it is stock right now, i just picked it up super cheap from an older couple that kept it in perfect shape but anyway, here is the problem i have been looking for lift kits and it seems like the only ones i can find for it are 4" suspension and 3" body lift and i can't find anything bigger than that so if anyone knows where i can find a bigger lift or knows what i can do please let me know.....thanks, jay
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Post by Sean on Jun 14, 2004 15:32:44 GMT -5
What are you trying to acheive? What are your fabrication skills? How much money do you want to spend? What size tire do you want to run?
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Post by fragileversion on Jun 15, 2004 10:46:23 GMT -5
i was looking along the lines of 10-15 inches or so cause i've looked at some other yota's with 4inch suspension and 3inch body lifts and it barely looks like they are lifted. right now i don't have the time for any customizing or fabricating cause i am in the process of buying a house and then maybe after i am settled i can take some time to tear down and start fresh but for the time being me and my friends are out every chance we get, and thats why i was just looking for a kit. I also have IFS and this is another reason why they only make smaller kits for it.
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Post by fourwd1 on Jun 15, 2004 12:32:30 GMT -5
i was looking along the lines of 10-15 inches or so . No offense, but that's NUTS   That kind of lift has no use except in a chrome-plated trailered show truck. It would be an engineering nightmare, with a COG so high a small breeze would push it over (OK, a slight exageration). It would have poor stability and driveability on-road, forget about off-road. just my .02 |
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Post by DeadlyPeace on Jun 15, 2004 14:19:10 GMT -5
I agree with 4wd1. Right now my rig is running with a 8" S/L and a 3" B/L and when it leans, it LEANS. The COG is up too high and can make it easy to roll. I've been wheeling for many moons so I don't have too much of a trouble dealing with it.
If you plan on mixing a S/L with a B/L, then I would sugguest going with the a 4" to 5" S/L. Get use to it, on and off road. Then go with a B/L (no more then 3") if you still want one. The B/L and 5"-up S/L is where you get into the most COG problems. After getting use to it you can up grade your S/L with longer shacles or other mods. Just remember that with every inch you add to it you double or triple the lean it will have.
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Post by Sean on Jun 15, 2004 18:33:02 GMT -5
Whiplash suspension makes some crazy tall IFS suspension systems. I have no idea how to find them on the web.
Otherwise get a solid axle swap done with some really big lift springs. If you aren't willing to build it yourself, your best bet is to find a shop that is and talk to them about which option is better for you.
My 4runner has a SAS with 4" All Pro's and for me it is too high. When compared to a domestic truck though it only sits about as high as a new F250, just with a whole lot better ground clearance.
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Post by 4xfred on Jun 15, 2004 20:23:14 GMT -5
i was looking along the lines of 10-15 inches or so . ;D Are you ?! For who,for what? If you wheel, this ain't gonna work! Unless it's 100% mud. I still haven't heard what tires you want to run. Later... |
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Post by fragileversion on Jun 17, 2004 9:20:21 GMT -5
must be different around my way then cause 4 out of 5 toyota's around here are sitting 10-15 inches off the ground and all participate in wheeling every chance they get but then again, leave it to the experts!!!  |
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Post by 91toy4x4 on Jun 20, 2004 0:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by kjmcdaniel on Jun 20, 2004 9:17:10 GMT -5
When you talk about the amount of lift from either suspension, or body upgrades, the amout of lift (ie. 4 -5 inches) is the amount over stock hight. I have a bone stock '87 4Runner. It sits 19" off the ground when measured at the rocker panel (keep in mind that this is not a meaningful measurement. I just use it as a comparison here.) My trail rig is an '86 4Runner with SAS and about a 6 - 7 inch suspension lift, no body lift, on 36" tires, and it sits 32" off the ground at the rocker panels. I've rolled it twice  It is very top heavy and is completely unsafe at highway speeds.  I belive you can easilly achive what you are after with a 4" lift. Hope this helps. |
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Post by DeadlyPeace on Jun 20, 2004 23:59:04 GMT -5
With that said, mine sits at 30" at the bottom of the frame and and 35" at the bottom of the pinch weld of the rocker panel. Might be going about another 2 1/2" to add in some orbit-eyes. Not sure yet till I get them to see how I really want to mount them. Might be able to do it with little or no lift. This would be good cuz I'm already 3" over the highway law limits.
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Post by Zartan74 on Jun 21, 2004 13:45:18 GMT -5
I would say anything over 6" in suspension lift on a toyota is overkill. I am running a 5" susp. and 2" body and have enough clearance for 36" tires with 18" of travel. Also with a IFS rig anything over 4.5 inches and you're looking at a lot of custom work with driveshafts. with the 4" susp. and a body you would need around a 35" tire which will require new ring and pinion gears. depending on how much you want to spend I would start with the 4" susp. or swap in a solid axle and then go from there.
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