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Post by blue1985yota on May 20, 2004 22:00:19 GMT -5
What do Shackles do? Are they worth the Money? Johnny Joints? Do I need them? Is there a alternive? Worth the money on a truck thats mostly a daily driver?
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Post by 4xfred on May 20, 2004 22:07:05 GMT -5
;D Shackles attach the leaf spring to the truck. Now, what are you looking to do? More flex? A little lift? There are products that'll do one or both. What do you want from them? Later...
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Post by blue1985yota on May 20, 2004 22:44:51 GMT -5
I am just looking for more flex.
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Post by southalabama87 on May 21, 2004 0:18:50 GMT -5
If all your looking for is flex than revolver shackles work good, they allow for a lot more flex. The only thing about them is they have a tendincy to unload when you don't want them to and the ride characteristics are not allways predictable. Just use regular shackels and make sure their set up right to allow the springs to move up and down. Remember, flex is way overated  |
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Post by Sean on May 21, 2004 10:49:34 GMT -5
Remember, flex is way overated BWAHAHAHAHAHA Spoken like a true IFS owner. Droop is over rated, flex is not. Stock leaves don't offer much flex, if you want to improve flex change out you springs to some aftermarket's or chevy's. |
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Post by southalabama87 on May 22, 2004 2:48:09 GMT -5
Yep, sure is. I'm collecting parts for the sas though, just bought an 85 parts truck and going to strip it down and start getting things ready. Check out this thread, it has some good ideas about shackles. www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=252452 |
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Post by blue1985yota on May 27, 2004 1:07:31 GMT -5
How do shackles mount to the frame? Do they just Bolt on or do i need to buy some kind of mouting system?
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Post by 4xfred on May 27, 2004 20:44:45 GMT -5
;D It's a bolt on for shackles w/ stock springs. I've got Downey gusseted 1 1/2" longer shackles w/NWOR poly bushings(frame & leaf)on my rig. IMHO, the poly's w/Neo grease did more to improve "flex"
than anything. Later...
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Post by DeadlyPeace on May 28, 2004 14:11:41 GMT -5
I like the double shackle effect. I've got stock Chevy shackles (from an auto wrecker) and aftermarket shackles (from a local 4x4 shop). I have the aftermarket ones so that they are up against the frame and the Chevy's so they come down to the springs.
Here the shackles sit at rest. If you look just above the bolt that holds the two shackles together you can see a rubber stopper (also from local 4x4 shop). These work good for keeping the shackle from hitting or rubbing against the frame.
Here is a side and rear view of the shackle at work. They will unfold until they are in a straight line with each other and going forward at about 15-20 degrees. Once I actually had one of them fold back up in the wrong direction. Have plans making something to slove this problem, but just haven't got around to it. You can also see the rubber stopper here better.
 
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Post by southalabama87 on May 28, 2004 23:45:39 GMT -5
Hey Deadly, what springs are you running? They kinda look like chevy shackles so I'm thinking they're chevy's. I like that double shackle setup, it looks a lot simpler than others i've seen. How do they ride though, I know with revolvers they say they can unload and are unpredictable on hills and when accelerating/braking?
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Post by DeadlyPeace on May 29, 2004 0:49:00 GMT -5
Well I'm guessing you're correct since I already said that they're Chevy shackles ;D As for the springs, they're Chevy's also. I haven't had any problems with this setup at all in any kind of road condition even when accelerating, cornering, braking, etc. I've even taken corners fast enough that the rear tire leaves the ground (up to 12") and still no problems.
Now for the ride.....well it ain't no Cadillac, but it's smoother then the stock setup.
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Post by southalabama87 on May 29, 2004 1:51:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I figured since they were chevy shackles that the springs were to. Just one more question for now, how long are the shackles, the ones connected to the frame?
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