All-Pros 4inch help

[blue1985yota]

Can some one tell me with allpro 4inch lift is good and help me set it up buy telling me what i should buy and helping me pick out what i should put on my 85 mostly daily driver but can go hard 4wheelings on couple weekends a month.

Major Questions:
get the all pros front leaf springs in stock location or the longer leaf springs?

get rear suspension kit or should i get the rear springs and that stuff seperate ebacsue i dont know if i need all that stuff.

shocks...bilstein 5100? 5150? something esle?

shackles...need or not need? AOR?

with the longer front springs a guy i talked to from allpros on the phone said i need hy-steer or it wont work...true or was he just trying to sell me more stuff?

perch kit or u bolt flip kit?

all pros front hanger kit?

will i need a longer drive shaft? allpro told me us no matter what but most people say no.

Gear... need them right away or can they wait?

i will probly have new questions every day or two and will need lots of help. i have a low buget around 3,000 and 1,000 is already going to corbeau baja ss seats, mouting brackets, all pro roll cage, and 4 point harness, so bassicaly 2,000 and still need to buy wheels and tires ( 35x12.50x15 procomp Xterrian tires on 15x10 tech one black rock crawler wheels)

A truck that i like a lot is on the internet... www.nowhitefenders.com/buildup.htm ... the one the left

i need lots of help.

[fourwd1]

First thing, what is your metal working capability (cutting, grinding, drilling, welding, etc.) ? That has a bearing on what you can do suspension-wise. If it is little or none you're limited to a brand-x bolt-on suspension. AP's (and other) longer springs require more work, nothing too difficult, but cutting/drilling/welding is necessary for the new hangers, x-over steering, etc.

Once you figure out what you can do it will be easier to figure out what you want/need.

Also, the type of wheeling you do has a bearing on how you want to build the truck. What is good for mud isn't necessarily good for rock crawling.

[blue1985yota]

I cant fabricate or anything, never have, but i know people who can and said they would. i want my truck to be mostly for rock crawling but can do other if i want.

[blue1985yota]

my most important questions is can i keep stock steering for a little bit with all props longs travel front springs? if i can what do i need to change that isnnt hy-steer because im going to be keeps non-power steering untill i can go hy-steer and thats not in my buget. If i cant use stock steering/ little adjustments with allpros 4inch lings travel springs i will go with skyjackers 5 inch system instead.

[Sean]

You would be making a huge mistake buying the skyjacker kit if your main interest is rockcrawling. Buy the All Pro springs then start saving for the hi steer or consider waiting to change the seats and other crap until you actually have a functional rock crawler. Personally I would put the seats, cage and harness all behind the suspension and steering in importance. I would also put it behind lockers and crawler gears.

[blue1985yota]

As of right now i have around 3,000 dollars and the first 1,000 is for seats, 5 point harness, and roll cage because its my dads rule because theres no air bag, the next 1,000 woudl go towards wheels and tires. So basically i have 1,000 for suspension and steering which will be spent in...

AP 4inch long travel forn leaf springs...$199
AP 4inch rear leaf springs...$269
AP long travel shock hoops...$89
Bilstein 5150s...$356
AP front Spring hanger kit...$239
AP front of rear spring hanger kit...$60
AOR rear shacklets...$70

Anything thing esle ill need for suspension/Steering steup???

[fourwd1]

blue1985yota said:

As of right now i have around 3,000 dollars and the first 1,000 is for seats, 5 point harness, and roll cage because its my dads rule because theres no air bag, the next 1,000 woudl go towards wheels and tires. So basically i have 1,000 for suspension and steering which will be spent in...

AP 4inch long travel forn leaf springs...$199
AP 4inch rear leaf springs...$269

AP long travel shock hoops...$89

Ford shock towers are $12.50 ea, cut the stock ones off and weld these where needed.

Bilstein 5150s...$356

AP front Spring hanger kit...$239
AP front of rear spring hanger kit...$60
AOR rear shacklets...$70

Have your buddy fab the last 3 and save $350

Anything thing esle ill need for suspension/Steering steup???

Cross-over steering is a must ! A spell checker wouldn't hurt either ;D

[kjmcdaniel]

With some of the money you save from fabing your own spring hangers and shackles, you'll need to get some extended brake lines. I doubt your stock lines will be long enough when you start flexing your new springs.

[blue1985yota]

i have already planned the brake lines. With the 4inch lift is cross over steering a must need or more of a want? could i go without for a couple of months while i save up?

[Sean]

For the brake lines you can just run two stock lines together to get the length you need for cheap.