Can somebody help me out????

[carlos4x4sand]

I saw a junked up full size bronco today its like a '78-'79. Is got both axles and if i cant get them cheap im gonna save them for when i do a SAS on my Runner. You think these would be good to put on for a SAS? Would anybody know what front axle this things got? Im guessing a Dana 60 since its a old fullsize ford, but i really dont have any clue. If someone knows i would be really greatfull. THANKS

[banshee45]

you have to be careful when it comes to late 70s to mid 90s ford bronco, bronco 2, rangers and fullsizes pickups. many on these vehicles came with a front axle called a ttb or twin tractor beam solid axle. it is hard to explain, but it is basically a solid axle the flexs a little bit from of center. like on the front of the toyota ifs, if only one arm moved up and down, and the other was welded straight.

[carlos4x4sand]

i know what a ttb is they didnt come out till like 84 i think the late seventies hand solid axles.

[banshee45]

hmm, you might be right i wanted to point out that it might have a ttb,before you got closer to buying it

[86taco]

I thnk It might have a dana 44 in the front. Dont know about the rear. My buddy has a 78' full size bronco I wil ask him.

[Sean]

78-79 bronco's come equipped with a dana 44 front and a 9" rear. 80 they changed to the TTB.

[carlos4x4sand]

So these would be good axles for a SAS dont u think??

[4xfred]

;D I looked @ a '79 Bronco we have @ work & it's got a D44 up front w/a 9" out back. Are you thinking of using these fullsize or cutting them down? Man, they seem too wide for a Toy!! Anyways, the D44/9" is unbeatable for parts & is a solid combo. Later...

[carlos4x4sand]

I plan i leaving them fullwidth. Snorkelman is doin this exactly the same axles at fullwidth. So ima see how his looks. BTW there are some pics of toyota with full axles on Snorkelmans post mkelly.proboards22.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1068830520 i dont think they look that bad, all they need is bigger tires. I plan to run 39s.

[Sean]

Yeah you can go full width, forget street driving in most places though. As well I'll state the obvious, the ford dana 44 has a driver side drop, so you will need a different transfer case to make it work. Snorkelman's 44 is likley out of chevy.

[carlos4x4sand]

I has lookin at a SAS but on a fullsize chevy and the guy used a 79 Ford Dana 44 3/4 ton front straight axle. Did these have the pumpkin on the passenger side??

[Sean]

Ok, here's the thing. Chevy used to be passenger side drop like toyota until they dropped the solid axle in 88 and went IFS. Then they changed to driver side. So if you are doing an SAS on a chev you either need to change transfer cases to an old 205 or something, or go with a axle with the driver side drop, like the 78-79 Fords.

[carlos4x4sand]

Is there a kit, where i can keep my stock auto trans but put a driver side transfercase. I know that the transmission and transfercase have like passages where they share the same fluid. Could i remove the transfer and like weldup the passages and adapt another transfer???

[carlos4x4sand]

But now that i think about it, it would be much cheaper to just get a chevy diff. But for sure i should at least get the 9" rear right.

[carlos4x4sand]

Im in LUCK. I have a friend that is planning a SAS on his 95 chevy pickup. Well he has a old chevy axle but ive been reading around and the old chevys have the pumpkin on the passenger side and the newer chevys(his truck) have the drive shaft on the driver side. So i think im gonna get the Ford axle and trade him for the chevy one which is what i would need RIGHT? A pumpkin on the passenger side ;D. Think I should do this?? I havent suggested it to him yet. Please let me know?? Thanks

[Sean]

It depends on the axle he has. If it is a 10 bolt GM axle forget it. I personally would'nt even bother with a 44, it's not really any stronger then a toy axle especially if you build them both up. If you want to go full width, why go less then a 60? Just my opinion.

[carlos4x4sand]

No i do agree, its just that I havent come across one(ok havent looked) for a DANA 60. Im just exploring all the possibilites.

[carlos4x4sand]

HEy Sean, If by any chance i dont find a 60 cheap, what could i do to make the 44 stronger??

[Sean]

A couple basic mods are aftermarket alloy axle shafts such as Warn's and greasableknuckle joints like CTM's.
The 44 has a stronger ring and pinion then a toy axle, so this set up would be arguably better then a toy axle with alloy shafts and Longfield birfield joints, but not by much.
My biggest problem witht he 44 is that it is not a king pin designed axle, but instead uses ball joints. Usually when you break a birf you can limp off the trail but with a 44 often the joint will go taking the ball joint with it.

[85yodaman]

Dont know what year toy you are doing this on. But as others had stated, Dana 44 High pinion front (drivers side pumpkin), (9inch rear). Great axles but the 44 front wont work for you unless you have the tubes swapped and cut, knuckles rotated, and add perches. Lot of work and money for the average shop junkie. 9inch is a good choice but axles will need to be made for the 6 lug since the ford is 5 on 5.5. Or you can change the wheels. 9inch is a great choice for the rear as it will hold up to a lot of abuse. More than likely the 9 inch out of the bronco is 28 spline and has a crappy gear ratio. Some did have 31 spline carriers. I'd check that out before considering it. Either way parts for the 9inch are everywhere and can be built to handle gobbs of abuse. Been there and done that. Swapping axles from your buddies chevy is not a good choice. Consider a narrow thack 44 from a wagoneer as the lug pattern is 6 lug most of the time, and they will have the pumpkin on the pass side. Many other things need to be considered when doing axle swaps. Best to gather info before jumping into this. A cheap set of axles may not be so cheap by the time you are done. Get what works and build from there.
Any info I can give I will be happy to help.
Rgds,
Dennis Sanders
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