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Post by hillbilly81 on Mar 26, 2009 16:36:46 GMT -5
so I'm always poking around the internet and junkyards for cheap upgrades and the such. I came across total chaos's long travel suspension kit and I was wondering... what the hell does that do to cost almost twice the price of a regular 4 inch suspension lift kit, when the kit they're selling doesnt even come with all the parts needed to install it? is it really that much better than your run of the mill 4 inch lift kit? and how much better? www.chaosfab.com/95000UB.html (theres the link) also it mentions that I would need t-100 axless for their swap... that got the gears turning. are the front t-100 axels interchangeable with the ifs axles I have now (like bolt in)? and more importantly are they stronger? or do you just need them for the total chaos kit because it is "long travel"... that is all, thanks |
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Post by yotanut7 on Mar 26, 2009 19:40:58 GMT -5
The TC kit has much better quality components than the regular lift kits. Their kits are designed for much longer travel like that needed for desert trucks. Regular lift kits dont offer any increase in suspension travel and the only change in performance comes from the shocks. The reason for the T100 axles is they are longer. I don't think there is any increase in strength over the stock shafts and they do bolt right up.
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Post by hillbilly81 on Mar 27, 2009 9:40:55 GMT -5
huh... I was always under the impression that the suspension lifts added atleast a little bit more suspension travel.... that bites, $1200 is a lot to pay just to have bigger tires...
I kinda figured that would be the reason for the t-100 axles.
so the question becomes: how do you get more suspension travel, and stronger axels while retaining the ifs?
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Post by yotanut7 on Mar 27, 2009 11:41:01 GMT -5
Downey (downeyoff-road.com) makes heavier axles with higher angle cv's and full suspension kits as well. I read somewhere T100 A arms bolt in place of the pickup arms. That increases the track width by about 3 inches per side and in theory nets you more travel. It was recommended you install heavy duty torsion bars due to the added stress on them. Downey's sas kit is cheaper than the ifs ones and you will have a much stronger axle and suspension.
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Post by hillbilly81 on Mar 27, 2009 11:47:48 GMT -5
yeah, but dang if I wasnt trying to prove to the world that IFS was as strong and as capable as the solid axles. I'm not giving up yet, but as I do more and more research it keeps turning me to a SAS...
buddies jeep just got 7 inches of lift on a solid axle and flexes like a ... ... ... well it'll flex a lot.
was the whole point of IFS on road comfort or was there some aspirations of off road capability when toyota decided to go with it?
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Post by Sean on Mar 28, 2009 0:08:05 GMT -5
The factory torsion bar IFS is a tough set up, much more durable then the later coilover set up. But it isn't nearly as strong or capable as a solid axle.
The reason the total chaos kit is twice the price of normal kits is normal kits reuse your stock control arms.
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Post by hillbilly81 on Mar 28, 2009 1:11:57 GMT -5
word. well all in all... I'll probably just do a normal 4" suspension like everyone else, I was just a bit shocked and dissapointed that the TC was so expensive and that the normal suspension lifts dont increase travel at all. one day I'll probably do a SAS but I think I'll work on the driver a bit first.
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