HELP

[95yoter]

Alright guys, I am new to the website and I was wondering what you all think about my plan... I have a 3 inch body and a 2 inch rear block/2 inch ball joint spacer on my 95 pickup... Can I fit 35x12.50 mud terrains comfortably? (no trimming or rubbing?) I know I could fit 33's but would like to run with 35's. Also it will have 4.88 gears.

Thanks!!!

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[whomadewho]

I have 33:s on my 92 pickup. The clearence between the front bumper and the tire is close. My wheels are 10 inches wide,and the rim runs close to the tie rod end. Anything wider than 10 inch,you may have to use adapters or off set wheels.

[95yoter]

You have 33's with a 3 inch body and a 3 inch suspension and you still have rubbing? theres no way.. I know guys with 3 inch body lifts and can clear 33's with little problems...

[whomadewho]

I do not have a 3 inch lift. The truck measures 20 inches from the ground to the lowest part of the valance. If you measure from the edge of the valance to the lower inside of the fender toward the very bottom its roughly between 34 -35 inches. So if you are asking (no trimming) you may have to trim the valance. Again I have 10 inch wheels,they do not protrude outside the fenders. The clearance between the wheel and the tie rod end is so close using wheel weights is not an option. So if you get to this point,sand bags are the way to go to balance the tires

[fourwd1]

Dec 16, 2011 17:07:12 GMT -5 95yoter said:

Alright guys, I am new to the website and I was wondering what you all think about my plan... I have a 3 inch body and a 2 inch rear block/2 inch ball joint spacer on my 95 pickup... Can I fit 35x12.50 mud terrains comfortably? (no trimming or rubbing?) I know I could fit 33's but would like to run with 35's. Also it will have 4.88 gears.

Thanks!!!

No, they won't fit "comfortably" as you put it, and 4.88 will be a bit undergeared (more than a bit if you have an auto trans).

[95yoter]

No it's a 5 speed but I was thinking of selling or returning my bj spacers and blocks and buying a 4 inch suspension from rough country... That should fit the 35's well.

[whomadewho]

Something else that you should look into before installing a lift is - The load sensing proportioning and By-Pass valve. Is this vehicle going to be used for off road or highway use? What engine are you running ? If you have a stock 22re you are going to be disappointed if you choose to go with the 4 88 gears. With A fuel injected 22re engine you are limited in what you can do performance wise. I have custom built pistons,oversize valves, headers etc, 22RE engine with 4-56 gears, performance wise on the highway is not very impressive, and with a factory frame my off road use is very limited.

[whomadewho]

Something else I have noticed with the wide tires,it has effected stopping distance. Given the size of the front brake pads and rotors more friction and heat is being produced. I have experienced brake fade and the rotors chatter.

[95yoter]

What do you mean you are not impressed with highway performance? Yo wind the rpm's too high at 65 mph with 4:56's? I think 4:88 with 35's will return the truck basically back to "stock" so to speak. If I can turn 31's no problem with 4:10 and have no power loss... Then wouldn't 4:88's be plenty sufficient to feel no power loss turning tires that are just 4 inches bigger? I've also heard people say that it is not that noticeable of a loss to turn 33's with stock 4:10's..... I mean it isn't an automatic.. I can basically control my revs and just get into 1st gear at a higher rpm say maybe 1500 or so...

[fourwd1]

4 cyl/5 spd/4.10's/33's is a noticeable difference.
Most people just deal with it because it's easier than spending $800-1000 to regear.
If you're really bent on 35's, 5.29 is a better ratio. 4.88 is more suited for 33's.

[whomadewho]

When I went to the 33 inch tires - 10 inch wheels - 4:10 gears,the engine wound up fairly well,but at 65mph the rpms were on the high side,and the speedometer was slow ( the speedometer read 55mph,but the actual speed was 65mph) I went to 4:56 gears,the speedometer is accurate but the engine seems to wind up a lot slower. Also when I shift gears the ratio seems to be closer. At 1850 rpm the speedometer reads 65 mph. I have a stock distributor ,I have often thought about going with a performance distributor. What really gets me, I purchased a Nissan D21 pickup 4x4 the vehicle is stock with the 4 cylinder engine and it will walk all over the Toyota pickup.

[95yoter]

fourwd1, what kind of rpm's will I be at 65-70mph? and what kind of gas mileage can I anticipate with a 22re/5speed/35" mud terrains/5:29s
Thanks!

[whomadewho]

Tough question to answer. Depends on driving habits,elevation etc. The best mileage I have ever obtained was 18.9 mph @ 65mph. Just my opinion,when modifications are done, fuel mileage sometimes goes on the back burner. If you are going to use this vehicle for highway use, I sincerely hope you will consider your safety and life of others. I was a medic for 20 years,and I have seen the pain and suffering that family members and friends have gone through with vehicles with lifts and over sized tires. I realize vehicle accidents occur all the time,but why would someone want to increase the chances of it happening

[95yoter]

The chances of what happening? A Ford f250 that's lifted or even stock for that matter could do way more damage to a sedan than a lifted toyota... and what would a lift and tires do different than a toyota pickup with no lift and big tires? It may drive up and over the car? Cmon... I could just as easy get into an accident and kill someone or injure someone with a non-lifted pickup with no big tires than a 4 inch lifted pickup... I don't think by lifting your truck increases any chances of anything happening. As long as your brakes are working properly and everything is in good working order, There's no increase of anything, it's a matter of who is driving the vehicle and what their abilities are...

[whomadewho]

Sounds like you are on a mission to make this work . I totally respect you're opinion and you re way of thinking. I have tried to point out some good reasons for not using the vehicle for highway use. Good luck and keep us posted on how the modifications turn out. I truly hope you can prove me wrong.

[fourwd1]

Dec 22, 2011 21:06:49 GMT -5 95yoter said:

fourwd1, what kind of rpm's will I be at 65-70mph? and what kind of gas mileage can I anticipate with a 22re/5speed/35" mud terrains/5:29s
Thanks!

I run 36's with 5.29's, which put's the speedo dead on. But the main thing is that also puts the engine operating back in the power band it was designed to operate in (where it's most efficient).
Keep in mind I have several hundred pounds of armor plus a second t-case and a winch. Add that to a worn out 22R (yeah, carb, not EFI) and I get 16-20 mpg.

[95yoter]

So do you think if I run 35's (I have no sliders or other armor or a winch) and 5:29's that my power band will be too early? Like winding out 1st and 2nd really fast... Or will it be close to stock?


Thanks

[fourwd1]

It will be closer to stock than using 4.88's.
I'm not saying you couldn't use 4.88's, just 5.29's would be better.